It appears that Mitt Romney’s bit about the 47% of Americans who pay no federal taxes is exploding. Much to Romney’s chagrine, a critical mass of people appear to have realized that there are multiple ways in which a person can end up with no federal tax liability despite, e.g., working full time, or in the case of 35,000 American households, even making upwards of $200,000/year. What is ironic about this state of affairs is the fact that many of the tax incentives in the federal tax code are things that we theoretically want to reward people for doing. So the fact that 47% of Americans have no federal tax liability is also theoretically something we should be celebrating.*
But what should shock people about this particular “attack” is not the fact that it overreaches and encompasses folks who are clearly not lazy, unemployed individuals that are content to suckle at the government teat. What is more shocking is the short memory of Republicans who have used this line of attack before. As I wrote back in June, the patron saint of the Republican party, Ronald Reagan, was actually trying to get as many people off the tax rolls as possible when he signed the Tax Reform Act of 1986, because he believed that taxing poor people was central factor in increasing the gravity of their poverty. Here are the words of the Legislative Committee that recommended the bill to Congress:
An overriding goal of the Committee is to relieve families with the lowest incomes from Federal income tax liability. Consequently, the Bill increases the amounts of both the personal exemption and the standard deduction…so that the income level at which individuals begin to have tax liability will be raised sufficiently to free millions of poverty-level individual from Federal income tax liability.
The entire point of Reagan-era tax reforms was to make it precisely so millions of Americans would be taken off the tax rolls completely. It takes an extraordinary act of cognitive dissonance to praise Reagan dogmatically out of one side of your mouth—as Romney has (though he rejected Reagan’s policies in his former life)—and then proceed to complain about the inevitable and intentional result of his signature policy reforms.
To be fair, one could reasonably object by pointing out that Reagan’s reforms also eliminated tax loopholes, which now exist in spades. But Romney’s attack was not directed at middle class and wealthy people who utilize tax loopholes to eliminate their federal tax liability. He was attacking an archetype of the American poor; the same individuals who Reagan believed would be helped by eliminating their federal tax liability. Notably, Reagan also believed eliminating federal tax liability for low-income Americans would help incentivize people on public assistance to re-enter the workforce, by allowing poor Americans to keep more of their already modest paycheck. Here again, Romney misses the mark by failing to understand Reagan’s intent and methodology, all the while counter-intuitively praising his example whenever the opportunity presents itself.
*theoretically of course.
Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens
The story goes like this: Sometime in the 1940s, Enrico Fermi was talking about the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence with some other physicists. They were impressed that life had evolved quickly and progressively on Earth. They figured our galaxy holds about 100 billion stars, and that an intelligent, exponentially-reproducing species could colonize the galaxy in just a few million years. They reasoned that extraterrestrial intelligence should be common by now. Fermi listened patiently, then asked, simply, “So, where is everybody?” That is, if extraterrestrial intelligence is common, why haven’t we met any bright aliens yet? This conundrum became known as Fermi’s Paradox.
Since then, the Paradox has become ever more baffling. Paleontology has shown that organic life evolved quickly after the Earth’s surface cooled and became life-hospitable. Given simple life forms, evolution shows progressive trends toward larger bodies, brains, and social complexity. Evolutionary psychology has revealed several credible paths from simpler social minds to human-level creative intelligence. So evolving intelligence seems likely, given a propitious habitat—and astronomers think such habitats are common. Moreover, at least 150 extrasolar planets have been identified in the last few years, suggesting that life-hospitable planets orbit most stars. Yet 40 years of intensive searching for extraterrestrial intelligence have yielded nothing: no radio signals, no credible spacecraft sightings, no close encounters of any kind.
It looks, then, as if we can answer Fermi in two ways. Perhaps our current science over-estimates the likelihood of extraterrestrial intelligence evolving. Or, perhaps evolved technical intelligence has some deep tendency to be self-limiting, even self-exterminating. After Hiroshima, some suggested that any aliens bright enough to make colonizing space ships would be bright enough to make thermonuclear bombs, and would use them on each other sooner or later. Maybe extraterrestrial intelligence always blows itself up. Indeed, Fermi’s Paradox became, for a while, a cautionary tale about Cold War geopolitics.
I suggest a different, even darker solution to the Paradox. Basically, I think the aliens don’t blow themselves up; they just get addicted to computer games. They forget to send radio signals or colonize space because they’re too busy with runaway consumerism and virtual-reality narcissism. They don’t need Sentinels to enslave them in a Matrix; they do it to themselves, just as we are doing today. Once they turn inwards to chase their shiny pennies of pleasure, they lose the cosmic plot. They become like a self-stimulating rat, pressing a bar to deliver electricity to its brain’s ventral tegmental area, which stimulates its nucleus accumbens to release dopamine, which feels…ever so good.
The fundamental problem is that an evolved mind must pay attention to indirect cues of biological fitness, rather than tracking fitness itself. This was a key insight of evolutionary psychology in the early 1990s; although evolution favors brains that tend to maximize fitness (as measured by numbers of great-grandkids), no brain has capacity enough to do so under every possible circumstance. Evolution simply could never have anticipated the novel environments, such as modern society, that our social primate would come to inhabit. That would be a computationally intractable problem, even for the new IBM Blue Gene/L supercomputer that runs 280 trillion operations per second. Even long-term weather prediction is easy when compared to fitness prediction. As a result, brains must evolve short-cuts: fitness-promoting tricks, cons, recipes and heuristics that work, on average, under ancestrally normal conditions.
The result is that we don’t seek reproductive success directly; we seek tasty foods that have tended to promote survival, and luscious mates who have tended to produce bright, healthy babies. The modern result? Fast food and pornography. Technology is fairly good at controlling external reality to promote real biological fitness, but it’s even better at delivering fake fitness—subjective cues of survival and reproduction without the real-world effects. Having real friends is so much more effort than watching Friends. Actually colonizing the galaxy would be so much harder than pretending to have done it when filming Star Wars or Serenity. The business of humanity has become entertainment, and entertainment is the business of feeding fake fitness cues to our brains.
Fitness-faking technology tends to evolve much faster than our psychological resistance to it. With the invention of the printing press, people read more and have fewer kids. (Only a few curmudgeons lament this.) With the invention of Xbox 360, people would rather play a high-resolution virtual ape in Peter Jackson’s King Kong than be a perfect-resolution real human. Teens today must find their way through a carnival of addictively fitness-faking entertainment products: iPods, DVDs, TiVo, Sirius Satellite Radio, Motorola cellphones, the Spice channel, EverQuest, instant messaging, MDMA, BC bud. The traditional staples of physical, mental and social development—athletics, homework, dating—are neglected. The few young people with the self-control to pursue the meritocratic path often get distracted at the last minute. Take, for example, the MIT graduates who apply to do computer game design for Electronics Arts, rather than rocket science for NASA.
Around 1900, most inventions concerned physical reality: cars, airplanes, Zeppelins, electric lights, vacuum cleaners, air conditioners, bras, zippers. In 2005, most inventions concern virtual entertainment—the top 10 patent-recipients were IBM, Canon, Hewlett-Packard, Matsushita, Samsung, Micron Technology, Intel, Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu—not Boeing, Toyota or Victoria’s Secret. We have already shifted from a reality economy to a virtual economy, from physics to psychology as the value-driver and resource-allocator. We are already disappearing up our own brainstems. Our neurons over-stimulate each other, promiscuously, as our sperm and eggs decay, unused. Freud’s pleasure principle triumphs over the reality principle. Today we narrow-cast human-interest stories to each other, rather than broadcasting messages of universal peace and progress to other star systems.
Maybe the bright aliens did the same. I suspect that a certain period of fitness-faking narcissism is inevitable after any intelligent life evolves. This is the Great Temptation for any technological species—to shape their subjective reality to provide the cues of survival and reproductive success without the substance. Most bright alien species probably go extinct gradually, allocating more time and resources to their pleasures, and less to their children. They eventually die out when the game behind all games—the Game of Life—says “Game Over; you are out of lives and you forgot to reproduce.”
Heritable variation in personality might allow some lineages to resist the Great Temptation and last longer. Some individuals and families may start with an “irrational” Luddite abhorrence of entertainment technology, and they may evolve ever more self-control, conscientiousness and pragmatism. They will evolve a horror of virtual entertainment, psychoactive drugs and contraception. They will stress the values of hard work, delayed gratifica tion, child-rearing and environmental stewardship. They will combine the family values of the religious right with the sustainability values of the Greenpeace left. Their concerns about the Game of Life will baffle the political pollsters who only understand the rhetoric of status and power, individual and society, rights and duties, good and evil, us and them.
This, too, may be happening already. Christian and Muslim fundamentalists and anti-consumerism activists already understand exactly what the Great Temptation is, and how to avoid it. They insulate themselves from our creative-class dreamworlds and our EverQuest economics. They wait patiently for our fitness-faking narcissism to go extinct. Those practical-minded breeders will inherit the Earth as like-minded aliens may have inherited a few other planets. When they finally achieve contact, it will not be a meeting of novel-readers and game-players. It will be a meeting of dead-serious super-parents who congratulate each other on surviving not just the Bomb, but the Xbox.
There are some really great points in here especially about consumerism and entertainment.
This is one of the silliest things I’ve read in a long time. While there maybe valid points about questioning the direction our culture is taking, it is surrounded by false pseudo-science making these questions seem silly and quite ridiculous.
I was just arguing with a friend that didn’t know this. so, i wanted to share.
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The Five Reasons Why the Ryan-Romney Economic Plan Would Be A Disaster for America
Mitt Romney hasn’t provided details so we should be grateful he’s selected as vice president a man with a detailed plan Romney says is “marvelous,” “bold and exciting,” “excellent,” “much needed,” and “consistent with” what he’s put out.
So let’s look at the five basic features of this “marvelous” Ryan plan.
FIRST: It would boost unemployment because it slashes public spending next year and the year after, when the economy is still likely to need a boost, not a fiscal drag. It would be the same austerity trap now throwing Europe into recession. According to the Economic Policy Institute, Ryan’s plan would mean 1.3 million fewer jobs next year than otherwise, and 2.8 million fewer the year after.
SECOND: Ryan would take from lower-income Americans and give to the rich – who already have the biggest share of America’s total income and wealth in almost a century. His plan would raise taxes on families earning between 30 and 40 thousand dollars by almost $500 a year, and slash programs like Medicare, food stamps, and children’s health What would Ryan do with these savings? Reduce taxes on millionaires by an average of over $500,000 a year.
THIRD: Ryan wants to turn Medicare into vouchers that won’t keep up with the rising costs of health care – thereby shifting the burden onto seniors. By contrast, Obama’s Affordable Care Act saves money on Medicare by reducing payments to medical providers like hospitals and drug companies.
FOURTH: He wants to add money to defense while cutting spending on education, infrastructure, and basic research and development. America already spends more on defense than the next five biggest military spenders put together. Our future productivity depends on the public investments Ryan wants to cut.
FIFTH AND Finally, Ryan’s budget doesn’t even reduce the federal budget deficit – not for decades. Remember: He’s adding to military spending, giving huge additional tax cuts to the very rich, and stifling economic growth by cutting spending too early. The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities estimates Ryan’s Roadmap would push public debt to over 175 percent of GDP by 2050.
So there you have it. The Ryan – Ryan-ROMNEY – economic plan.
And the five reasons why it would be a disaster for America.
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Yep, this. There was a Sagan quote on similar lines, but since I’ve not posted any Steven Pinker quotes. :)
This quote is part of Pinker’s answer to the question: Can You Believe in God and Evolution? His complete answer was:
It’s natural to think that living things must be the handiwork of a designer. But it was also natural to think that the sun went around the earth. Overcoming naive impressions to figure out how things really work is one of humanity’s highest callings.
Our own bodies are riddled with quirks that no competent engineer would have planned but that disclose a history of trial-and-error tinkering: a retina installed backward, a seminal duct that hooks over the ureter like a garden hose snagged on a tree, goose bumps that uselessly try to warm us by fluffing up long-gone fur.
The moral design of nature is as bungled as its engineering design. What twisted sadist would have invented a parasite that blinds millions of people or a gene that covers babies with excruciating blisters? To adapt a Yiddish expression about God: If an intelligent designer lived on Earth, people would break his windows.
The theory of natural selection explains life as we find it, with all its quirks and tragedies. We can prove mathematically that it is capable of producing adaptive life forms and track it in computer simulations, lab experiments and real ecosystems. It doesn’t pretend to solve one mystery (the origin of complex life) by slipping in another (the origin of a complex designer).
Many people who accept evolution still feel that a belief in God is necessary to give life meaning and to justify morality. But that is exactly backward. In practice, religion has given us stonings, inquisitions and 9/11. Morality comes from a commitment to treat others as we wish to be treated, which follows from the realization that none of us is the sole occupant of the universe. Like physical evolution, it does not require a white-coated technician in the sky.
Can You Believe in God and Evolution? Time Magazine, August 7, 2005
~ Kim
A friend of mine recently posted the following tiresome message on facebook as evidence of why “states should be able to govern themselves:”
The irony of this message is that it is a better argument against states’ rights than vice versa. But leaving states’ rights aside for a moment, I am confident that anyone who has spent two seconds examining the actual impact of welfare drug testing will discover that it’s literally one of the worst policies ever to be suggested in our body politic. From a cost/benefit analysis standpoint, it is quite possibly one of the most inefficient, ineffective, and counterproductive policies that a governing body can implement.
Not long after drug testing was implemented in Florida, it was discovered that 98% of Florida welfare recipients passed their drug tests. During follow-up investigation and exams, it was discovered that 96% of the testees were in-fact drug free. That means that welfare recipients in Florida are representing drug use at a 25-50% smaller rate than the nation writ large:
According to the 2009 National Survey on Drug Use and Health, performed by the U.S. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services, 8.7 percent of the population nationally over age 12 uses illicit drugs. The rate was 6.3 percent for those ages 26 and up.
Furthermore, if 96% of welfare recipients are passing drug tests, it means that 96 cents out of every tax dollar spent on drug testing in Florida is wasted.
96 cents out of every tax dollar spent on drug testing in Florida is wasted.
96 cents out of every tax dollar spent on drug testing in Florida is wasted.
As the New York Times noted in April:
[A] Florida law requiring drug tests for people who seek welfare benefits resulted in no direct savings, snared few drug users and had no effect on the number of applications, according to recently released state data.
And what happens to people who fail the drug tests? They are cut off from welfare benefits for a year. And what then? Will the exigencies of their circumstances generate magical bootstraps and help them find jobs?
Not really. The majority of people on welfare are not persistent benificiaries, meaning that in most cases, they are people who fell on hard times that needed help because they couldn’t establish income in the first place. “[T]he biggest reasons families apply for welfare are job instability, illness, disabilities and family problems, including abuse.” And in the wake of Clinton’s 1996 welfare reforms, many states require you to seek work while receiving welfare, meaning that you cannot simply ride the dole. If you want to stay on it, you actually have to try to get off it. So cutting people off of welfare doesn’t actually create any new incentives to find work. They are already required to demonstrate attempts to find employment as a condition of receiving welfare benefits in the first place.
So what happens then? Some beg friends, family members and neighbors for help. others resort to criminal activity. In the latter case, there’s a non-trivial chance they’ll end up in jail, where taxpayers will then pay close to $25,000 a year to pay for a former welfare-recipient’s housing, clothing, food, and healthcare, not to mention their legal representation. Compare that to the $753 monthly TANF benefit that a family of three receives in New York. It costs a lot more to throw somebody in prison than it does to give them public assistance. And given the notoriously high recidivism rates in America’s prisons, a good portion of those individuals who end up in prison will cost taxpayers a great deal more than $25,000. And much more than if they had simply been allowed to continue living on public assistance, where they’re also a lot more likely to end up becoming productive members of society again than if they get thrown in prison.
So in the end, what we are left with is a policy that wastes taxpayer money to solve a problem that doesn’t exist, at no material benefit to the taxpayers of the state. Drug testing welfare recipients is literally cutting off your nose to spite your face. Taxpayers in states that drug-test welfare recipients end up spending more in the long run than if they’d simply
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Modern North American culture is not the all-encompassing definition of human behaviour.
Apparently you failed the mock test. Here, let’s review. I’ll make it easy for you:
Nudity is not…
The point here is not “Boo hoo, men are so hard done by, let’s all become men’s rights activists”, which seems to be what you’re getting from this, judging by that comment about my apparent entitlement.
Yes, women are less privileged than men. Yes, we should push for equality. I am also a woman. I am a very petite woman who likes physics and war tactics and all sorts of other things that make people look askance at me. I am also a very gender-ambivalent bisexual. (And by bisexual I mean I don’t really care what you keep in your pants. So I’m just sexual, I guess.) I fully understand the mechanics of social inequality.
Unfortunately, being a gender-ambivalent
bisexual means that I don’t really see sexual inequality as an us-versus-them issue. To me, it’s not about meeting the privilege level of men. It’s about ensuring that people aren’t restricted by anything but the furthest limits of their potential and ambition.To me, dismissing the possibility of misandry ever becoming a serious problem because it isn’t now is the worst way to approach this because you’re still creating a them, like men aren’t potential victims like anyone and everyone else. Yes, the majority of highly influential social positions are occupied by men at this point in time.
That’s an older generation. Look at university enrollment rates for ours. (I presume you’re in my generation, at least.) We have more women enrolled in post-secondary education than men. If I believed this was based purely on capacity and proficiency, I’d have no problem with it.
But it’s not. It’s really not. The right to receive an education regardless of sex, race, religion or sexual orientation is an incredibly beautiful thing that I would gladly fight and die for. We’re achieving that, and that’s amazing.
Unfortunately, we haven’t just achieved that. Because the line is so vague, we’ve pushed harder and farther and now we’re on the verge of causing a reversal and we won’t even acknowledge it. The media’s idea of a man isn’t just some symptomatic goofball we’ve dreamed up to knock down male privilege a notch, it’s something we risk making an actuality.
You might say that we’ve arrived at the point where your qualifications dictate your success, but we haven’t, because you have to tell most people that there’s a possibility and a place for them before they’ll even try. Most of history’s potential brilliance was wasted on closed doors. I don’t want to push men out. I don’t want to push men back into the trades because women are just as entitled to practice a trade, and they already have a hard time of it.
It’s not about meeting or beating men, just like it’s not about white, heterosexual, or cis-gendered privilege. It’s about having the option and knowing that you have the option. It’s not about being an empowered woman, it’s about being an intelligent human being who isn’t restrained by the particulars of your birth.
Given a box, the vast majority of people will sit comfortably in it and never question what lies beyond the cardboard. Most of us are good with rules, and fuck the self-righteous anybody who sputters on about sheep, because that ability to adhere is the reason we manage to function as a society.
Equality isn’t about meeting or exceeding your opponent’s level of opportunity, because I guarantee you that they’re sitting in a little box of their own.
If we want equality, we have to stop telling people what they can’t be or can’t do or what they should be or should do. Some children know what they want to be by grade school. Most don’t, but will live the rest of their lives making decisions based on a few passing assessments that probably aren’t even relevant anymore.
My elementary school teachers thought I had a mathematics learning disorder. Strangers told my mother that she should enter me in a children’s beauty pageant. In my extended family, I was the blonde one to a point that should have required a trademark.
I was lucky enough to have a hellfire matriarch for a mother who never let anyone tell me I couldn’t be a geologist when I grew up and an impassioned engineer for a father who wanted nothing more than to discuss Larry Niven and the gravitational effects of a Dyson Sphere on a theoretical population within.
I’m currently working on a largely speculative theory about spatial interdimensionality and the possibility that not everything that we interact with exists within the same dimensional limits as we do. Why? Because I want to. Because I love theoretical physics. Because nobody important enough ever told me that I couldn’t love theoretical physics.
I am a petite, blonde, female English major.
Think of the reactions I get and tell me that we don’t dictate opportunities based on societal perceptions of appropriateness.
Stop defining your ambitions as battles in the sex war. Do you want opportunity because you’re a woman and it should be a woman’s right, or do you want it because you’re a human being and it should be a human’s right?
Well for one I’m not defining anything as a sex war I simply stated that misandry isn’t an issue in US culture. You seem to disagree though honestly I just don’t see it. Pretty much every gender gets stereo-typed by the media. And the target demographic tends to determine just which stereo-type gets used. I think you could safely say that this is creating some tension. I still don’t see how any of this says misandry at all.
I agree that it is about being successful regardless of the particulars of your birth, but there is nothing wrong with fully embracing a gender identity, and trying to create a culture that accepts gender equally rather than one that attempts to do away with it. Though I accept that I could be misinterpreting this passage of your response.
The problem I have with your original post is that, because misandry is not an issue, claiming it is only fuels those that support an out of control privilege. To claim each issue is of equal wieght weakens true progress on equality.
I’m not a woman by the way. I get the impression you think I am. But, your being a woman and my being a man doesn’t effect the merit of our arguments in this case. The truth is saying that men are not victims of their own sexuality is something I agree with. Saying that the idea put forth by the media that they are victims is misandry is wrong, because it is used to weaken the claims of sexual objectivity of women by men, not to bring down men. Its a misguided perspective, I feel, to connect a good idea to misandry. It accomplishes nothing.
We do make decisions based on societal norms, but the mere fact that you being a woman and getting funny looks for your ideas in the area of physics because your a woman just confirms that misandry is a non-issue. If it was it would be my ideas that get the funny looks.
Modern North American culture is not the all-encompassing definition of human behaviour.
Apparently you failed the mock test. Here, let’s review. I’ll make it easy for you:
Nudity is not inherently sexual. See the women of Ancient Egypt. See the Surma people of Ethiopia. Open a National Geographic, for fuck’s sakes.
Hypersexualization of the body is cultural, not instinctual. Men are not rapists in waiting, lurking innocuously near until triggered by an errant pair of breasts.
Sincerely,
Fuck you.The sad part is that many of the people who perpetuate this stereotype are men themselves. They’ll often use it as an excuse that it’s just ‘in their nature’.
Dear people who think misandry is an issue,
If it was such a big problem it would be men who carry their car keys as weapons and have pepper spray in their purses.
And.. I’m done with you.
Yes, of course.
Misogyny is only a clearly only a problem when women are physically attacked, assaulted, or murdered.
Social shaming of women who pursue traditionally masculine goals has never been a problem. Loss of opportunity has never been dictated by sex.
Clearly, social interactions between the sexes are dictated by strength and strength alone. Men attack women because they can, because women are smaller and weaker. No one ever claims that women have inferior minds or weaker wills. The “fairer sex” doesn’t mean the “submissive sex” at all.
Let’s speak theoretically and imagine for a moment that non-violent symptoms of sex-related hate are actually a thing.
Men oppress women, hurt women, deprive women. The Man is really men, and we live in a patriarchal world. In this world, men cannot be a victim of hate because they are never denied opportunity, never the victims of unfairness, never the losing half of the double standard.
They may as well be animals. They’re part of the patriarchal hive mind. They never consider options outside of those that maintain the status quo. Men clearly don’t suffer at the hands of other men because they clearly never take the woman’s side. They never suffer at the hands of women who misunderstand their clumsy attempts to aid the feminist movement because they never make that attempt.
Men oppress women, without exception. Whites oppress blacks, without exception. Heterosexuals oppress homosexuals and bisexuals and asexuals, and cis-gendered people oppress anyone who is not cis-gendered, without exception.
Misogynists claim rapists can’t be blamed for their actions because she was “asking for it”.
Misandrists claim that men are always waiting for the opportunity, the excuse, that all men are potential attackers and all women are potential victims.
Both sides sneer and draw contemptuous caricatures of the other and they are both exactly fucking the same. The only difference is where the blame falls.
Unfortunately, the world is not composed of lines drawn in the sand or the boxes you conveniently lump people into. If you want perfectly consistent, formulaic behaviour, become a mathematician.
People suffer because you can’t accept that sex is not the be-all and end-all of behaviour and privilege. People don’t do horrible fucking things because they’re male or female, they do horrible fucking things because they’re horrible fucking people.
Very rarely does that have anything to do with sex. Rape is power, not intercourse, and it still happens when you take women out of the equation: it happens to smaller, weaker men.
Social inequality is power. By depriving someone of something, you make them less than you. You wield power over them. If enough people agree with you, you wield a significant amount of power.
Turn on your television, go to Youtube, open tv-links, I don’t care. Turn on any sitcom, any drama- anything set in the “real world” and made in the last ten years.
Tell me how many silly fainting women you see, waiting for a strong, sensible man to guide them and turn them away from poor judgement.
Now tell me how many lazy, beer-drinking buffoons you see, useless and slovenly, bailed out of every self-inflicted woe by a loving wife or a patient girlfriend, tolerated and loved despite their shortcomings because women are saints.
Clearly we never pigeonhole men like we do women. Men are never the butt of the joke. Misogyny exists, but misandry, like a straight line or a perfect circle, is a theoretical concept.
My mistake. You have my deepest apologies.
Congratulations you said a lot of words. You’re super smart. Unfortunately, I never said any of those things you were busy arguing against. You’re post addressed misandry which doesn’t really affect men as a social group. No one ever said men weren’t stereo-typed in the media. No one said women were saints. And if men loose a job to a woman its because she was better at it, and we are shooting for gender equality in the work place so your point is? Women still get paid less on average then men do so we still have some progress to shoot for. You’re little diatribe is likened to a rich person complaining about how expensive insurance is on a Ferrari. It might seem inconvenient to you but you’re perspective is skewed badly. Male issues are not the equivalent of female or transgender or gender queer or any other for that matter for the simple reason that men hold a position in our society that allows for their issues to be dealt with more often without a fuss. This doesn’t mean there aren’t instances of problems for men but the numbers are not equivalent. Misandry is not a social issue. It is a rarity that unfortunately occurs on such a small scale it almost never happens. All those things you listed so sarcastically are not msandry.
